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From: darkstar@chopin.udel.edu (Jerry Alexandratos)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Help With MSK 3.14 And APC
Date: 25 Jan 1995 11:37:47 -0500
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In article <3g5ogv$glp@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>,
Frank da Cruz <fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> wrote:
:In article <3g5n75$a1g@chopin.udel.edu>,
:Jerry Alexandratos <darkstar@chopin.udel.edu> wrote:
:>In article <1995Jan24.143256.39063@cc.usu.edu>,
:>Joe Doupnik <jrd@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
:>:In article <3g3jfo$4rr@chopin.udel.edu>, darkstar@chopin.udel.edu (Jerry Alexandratos) writes:
:>:>
:>:> I don't know what I'm missing here. I want to create a pcget and
:>:> pcsend macro similar to the ones that I use with C-Kermit 5A(190) to
:>:> automatically send and receive files from another computers.
:>
:Maybe you could be more specific about exactly which two kinds of computers
:you are trying to do this for, and what the "other" version of Kermit is.
:
:>:> My guess is that C-Kermit isn't interpretting the string correctly.
:>:> I've checked and everything says that it's using 8-bit modes, etc...
:>
:You're not being clear about which Kermit program is sending the APC,
:which one is supposed to be receiving it, etc.
:
:>So I guess this means that macros like pcget and pcsend will only work
:>with with C-Kermit. Dang! And I was hoping to emulate similar
:>functionality from the pc end of a MSK to C-Kermit connection.
:>
:Of course it works. Just read the documentation and follow the instructions.
:
:For C-Kermit 5A(190), which I assume in your case is the "APC sender", read
:section 3.1 of ckcker.upd.
:
:For MS-DOS Kermit as the "APC receiver", there are certain slight variations
:that depend on the program version. Version 3.12 and earlier did not have
:this feature. Version 3.13 was the first to support APC, and by default it
:was "ON". However, during 3.13's lifetime we received a number of comments
:stating that there were certain risks to having it on by default, and
:therefore it was better to have it OFF by default in hopes that users would
:do some reading to figure out how to turn it ON and hopefully see the
:accompanying material on the risks. This was done in version 3.14. Read
:about it in section 10 of the KERMIT.UPD file that comes with this version.
:
:Basically, all you have to do is tell MS-DOS Kermit to "set term apc on".
:
:And on the subject of APC, note that C-Kermit 5A(190) (in the UNIX, VMS,
:and OS/2 versions) now can itself be an APC receiver, and MS-DOS Kermit 3.14
:can be an APC sender.
:
:If you have any further problems after reading the documentation, report them
:by e-mail to kermit@columbia.edu.
:
:- Frank
Sorry, I apoligize I guess I wasn't clear enough, or maybe I should've
quoted the original post a little more than what I did.
The ignorance is mine in this matter. I didn't think that I would have
to be in terminal mode to make these macros work from the MSK side when
I was using MSK locally and CK on the host.
However, Joe's explanation that you need to be in terminal mode for the
APC commands to be received straightened everything out for me.
I didn't mean that the pcsend/get macros don't work at all. They do.
I should know, I use them almost everyday! What I meant was that there
was no way to do the same functionality using APC with MSK on the local
machine and CK on the host because there was no terminal emulation
present (since I would have to escape back to the command line to
execute them).
Damn! Improper pronount/subject reference. Maybe I should've listened
to my elementary school grammar teacher with a little more fervor? 8)
Thanks for all the input though.
--Jerry
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